Is the rapture in Matthew 24 or more specifically Matthew 24: 30-31? The verses are:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Sounds like the rapture to me, but others do not see it that away. So let’s take a look. Some say Matthew is for the Jews and does not apply to Christians. Okay, take a look at Luke 21 or Mark 13. They both say the same thing. So unless 3/4 of the gospels apply to the Jews only this argument has issues. Most believe that the earlier verses of Matthew 24 are the 6 seals of Revelation 6 and I agree. The pretribulation theory says that the rapture occurs prior to the seals and the day of the Lord encompasses the entire 7 year tribulation. Based on my previous posts I obviously disagree. Why? Well on the day of the Lord issue Joel 2:30-31 tells us “30And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.” This sounds a lot like seal 6 of Revelation 6 doesn’t? Revelation 6:12-13 “12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth…” Those sound eerily similar if they are not the same event. If this is not evidence enough Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 all same the same thing…sun, moon, and star signs and then a gathering of people.
Some say that the event in Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 is not the rapture. Anyone specific? Any pretribber, but more specifically Jack Kinsella of the Omega Letter. Lets read what he wrote in the article titled “Enduring Until The End”:
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
This is NOT the Rapture. This event takes place after the Tribulation. It is neither secret nor signless – all the tribes of the earth will mourn when they see Him coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”
So Mr. Kinsella says Matthew 24:30-31, which is the verse he quoted there, is not the rapture. Why? One, his ideology prevents him from accepting it. Two, he says it is signless. Signless? I’m sorry, when did any prophet or Jesus Christ himself say the rapture was signless? Seriously? Did he back this up with Scripture? Nope and that is because you can’t. It is false, a lie, a deceit. In fact 2 Thessalonians 2 debunks this idea. Read it for yourself:
“1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”
In verse 1 it clearly outlines the question, “…coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him…” We know Paul is about to provide info regarding the question of our Lord coming and us being gathered to him. Then it says two things have to occur first. Those two things are a “falling away” and “that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition”. Doesn’t this prove that we cannot be gathered to the Lord UNTIL these two things occur? Actually there is more. Reading further in 2 Thessalonians 2:7-8 you will find this “7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.” So, while Satan is already at work, but only what he is allowed until he be taken out of the way. I believe this is the Michael the Archangel. Most Pretribbers believe this is the Holy Spirit. I am not going to get into all that, but if you would like to I have several blogs about this. You can read the first one here. This is another sign prior to Jesus returning for the church. Therefore, the rapture cannot and is not signless.
The other reason why Mr. Kinsella says it because it is not secret. Hmmm, I think you know where I am going. Did he provide any Scripture to support this theory? Nope. Again, you cannot find in Scripture that the rapture is going to be a secret. In fact, Scripture tells us that our Lord turned to gentiles to make the Jews jealous. Romans 11:11 11I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. To this day, have the Jews as a whole been jealous of gentiles? Nope. I believe that the only thing that will is seeing Christ rapture the church. Do I have support for this belief? I think so….Matthew 24:30 “30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. “ The Jews are going to discover they crucified Jesus and will mourn. I think after they have mourned they will be jealous as well. The only thing Jesus said would be a secret is the exact timing of the rapture. We can know the season, but not the day or the hour.
After Mr. Kinsella says that Matthew 24:30-31 is not the rapture he also says “This isn’t the same event described by Paul in 1st Thessalonians 4:16-18. “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” Jesus doesn’t send His angels to gather the Church, He comes for them Personally. The Church isn’t gathered from the four winds or from one end of heaven to the other. It is caught up, first from the grave, and then from the surface of the earth and into the air. In the Matthew 24:31 event, His elect are gathered from heaven, where they already are.”
Let’s go over this now. Mr. Kinsella says 1 Thessalonians 4:16-8 is not the same as Matthew 24:30-31. Which means he also says it is not Luke 21 or Mark 13. Below are these two verses:
“25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Luke 21:25-28
“24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.” Mark 13:24-27
I encourage you to read all of Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13, but the verses above are the same event described in Matthew 24:30-31. The events seem to also match Revelation 6 until the rapture part which does not happen until Revelation 7. Back to these events are not the same as 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18. He says that “Jesus doesn’t send His angels to gather the Church, He comes for them Personally.” Ummmm, all three versus provided says that the Son of man is coming in the clouds. I see that is Christ coming personally, don’t you? Mr. Kinsella then goes on to say “The Church isn’t gathered from the four winds or from one end of heaven to the other. It is caught up, first from the grave, and then from the surface of the earth and into the air. In the Matthew 24:31 event, His elect are gathered from heaven, where they already are.” Gathering from the four winds means from all ends of the earth, from every direction. I cannot tell you I understand from one end of Heaven to the other. I would say that this is probably encompassing the believers from the entire world. Mr. Kinsella is right it is first from the grave, but what does that mean? Does it mean when we die our spirit stays in the ground with us until the rapture? I do not believe this and I doubt he does either.
There is my case. Matthew 24:30-31 is the rapture and so is Luke 21, Mark 13. The rapture is not a secret or is it imminent (signless). I realy pray for those that think it will because I am not sure they will be ready for what is coming soon.
Until next time…Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord!
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